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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 6 20:39:56 2023
2023-08-06 20:39:55* Now talking on #neozones
2023-08-06 20:39:55* Topic for #neozones is: Welcome to the neozones.club IRC room, please be kind to others! For full logs, go to https://owly.fans/irc
2023-08-06 20:39:55* Topic for #neozones set by OwlGal (Sun May 28 17:09:59 2023)
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2023-08-06 21:40:16 <yarrie>: test123
2023-08-06 21:40:29 <Owly>: Hello!
2023-08-06 21:40:36 <yarrie>: HELLO
2023-08-06 21:40:42 <Owly>: HELLO THERE
2023-08-06 21:40:43 <yarrie>: can u believe this whole time i had autolog OFF
2023-08-06 21:40:46 <yarrie>: so mad...
2023-08-06 21:41:07 <Owly>: Oh really? What are you using?
2023-08-06 21:41:11 <Owly>: I'm on HexChat
2023-08-06 21:41:17 <yarrie>: irssi
2023-08-06 21:41:23 <yarrie>: yea hexchat has autolog by default
2023-08-06 21:41:26 <yarrie>: i figured irssi did too
2023-08-06 21:41:29 <yarrie>: but nope:(
2023-08-06 21:41:39 <Owly>: Ahh, I can send you the chatlogs via Discord if you want
2023-08-06 21:41:48 <yarrie>: i have them on ur site
2023-08-06 21:41:52 <Owly>: Ye
2023-08-06 21:42:13 <yarrie>: but i was in a irc chan trying to get help and figured i could be lazy and discard it for a week or two bcs logs would catch it... but no :(
2023-08-06 21:42:24 <yarrie>: wait hold up maybe there is a log bot online
2023-08-06 21:42:26 <Owly>: x_x
2023-08-06 21:42:48 <Owly>: That sounds so annoying
2023-08-06 21:43:35 <yarrie>: i'm about to delve into the scary chat world of matrix since this chan had a bridge
2023-08-06 21:43:43 <yarrie>: i don't like matrix very much
2023-08-06 21:44:02 <Owly>: Oh nice, I have never used Matrix, shame you don't like the sound of it
2023-08-06 21:44:08 <yarrie>: very buggy
2023-08-06 21:44:11 <Owly>: Yay!
2023-08-06 21:44:40 <Owly>: It can't be THAT buggy... can it?
2023-08-06 21:45:02 <Owly>: Right? :|
2023-08-06 21:45:11 <yarrie>: i saw a masto post two days ago that sums it up
2023-08-06 21:45:37 <yarrie>: someone was stuck in the gnome chat two days ago because their client wouldn't leave because they claimed they weren't in it in the first place
2023-08-06 21:45:46 <Owly>: ?!????
2023-08-06 21:45:53 <yarrie>: its just really janky and the type of software where you hit a button and something happens, then reverts back two seconds later
2023-08-06 21:46:05 <Owly>: Oh jeez, that does not sound fun lol
2023-08-06 21:46:15 <yarrie>: not really sure why, i want it to succeed and all but it feels a little doomed
2023-08-06 21:46:34 <Owly>: Shame that it's buggy :S
2023-08-06 21:46:44 <yarrie>: also has funky ideas about guild-like things where each chat is it's own separate thing, and "guilds" are just like "pages" that link them together
2023-08-06 21:46:51 <yarrie>: instead of discord model where chats are in a guild
2023-08-06 21:46:56 <Owly>: Oh, well it kind of doesn't matter how good something is, if no-one uses it, it might as well not exiest :<
2023-08-06 21:47:05 <yarrie>: it has a good user base too :s
2023-08-06 21:47:05 <Owly>: Mmm
2023-08-06 21:47:10 <yarrie>: irc crossover
2023-08-06 21:47:37 <Owly>: To be fair, Matrix is open-source, so it will outlast Discord and other closed-source projects
2023-08-06 21:47:43 <Owly>: That's why IRC is going to be around forever
2023-08-06 21:47:55 <Owly>: Still, if no-one uses it...
2023-08-06 21:48:03 <yarrie>: hell yea
2023-08-06 21:48:15 <yarrie>: great way to put it
2023-08-06 21:48:20 <yarrie>: discord is still a fad social network
2023-08-06 21:48:24 <yarrie>: will go like the others in time
2023-08-06 21:49:10 <yarrie>: i'm also being harsh... it still works most of the time x)
2023-08-06 21:49:24 <Owly>: Discord is great, but it does suck that they are adding SO MUCH unwanted stuff all of the time :S
2023-08-06 21:49:56 <yarrie>: well it doesn't matter if i had autolog or not bcs no one answered my q hehe
2023-08-06 21:50:01 <yarrie>: oh well
2023-08-06 21:50:16 <yarrie>: i bullish on the coloring!!!!!!!!
2023-08-06 21:50:19 <yarrie>: *im
2023-08-06 21:50:22 <Owly>: Oof, oh dear :S
2023-08-06 21:50:47 <Owly>: It is annoying when you ask a question and it just goes into the V O I D
2023-08-06 21:51:40 <Owly>: lmao, I told Abby to join here and she's still not joined u_u
2023-08-06 21:51:42 <yarrie>: some guy was helping me out but i think i got too lost to help
2023-08-06 21:51:55 <Owly>: What was the question about?
2023-08-06 21:52:45 <yarrie>: abby started this voice changer for linux that i now maintain and i'm working on a C port for Pipewire. Pulseaudio audio server stuff was a lot easier than Pipewire (as u can imagine) so I needed some help with audio playback
2023-08-06 21:53:14 <yarrie>: getting gappy playback
2023-08-06 21:53:22 <Owly>: Do you mean this one? https://github.com/lyrebird-voice-changer
2023-08-06 21:53:34 <yarrie>: yess
2023-08-06 21:53:36 <yarrie>: https://github.com/lyrebird-voice-changer/lyrebird/tree/c
2023-08-06 21:53:39 <yarrie>: old pulse port
2023-08-06 21:53:42 <yarrie>: that works but has no gui
2023-08-06 21:53:49 <yarrie>: and i havent made any pipewire commits from my pc
2023-08-06 21:54:03 <Owly>: It's kind of funny that I knew about that git a few years before I knew you or Abby
2023-08-06 21:54:12* Owly looks at the URL you sent
2023-08-06 21:54:16 <yarrie>: LOL somehow got big
2023-08-06 21:54:36 <Owly>: Oh wow, yeah, a lot of starts on the git
2023-08-06 21:54:36 <yarrie>: i think its bcs abby put on a trans programmer subreddit
2023-08-06 21:54:40 <yarrie>: and it blew up from there
2023-08-06 21:54:43 <Owly>: Ahh
2023-08-06 21:54:55 <Owly>: I don't think I ever got the program to work lol
2023-08-06 21:55:07 <Owly>: IDK when I last tried it... two years ago?
2023-08-06 21:55:10 <yarrie>: yea pipewire is the norm now and its pulseaudio
2023-08-06 21:55:16 <yarrie>: also has an annoying setup process -_-
2023-08-06 21:55:16 <Owly>: Ahh
2023-08-06 21:55:32 <Owly>: I kind of should retry it
2023-08-06 21:55:34 <yarrie>: very unix like and chains two separate unix tools together and is masked by the gtk gui
2023-08-06 21:55:43 <yarrie>: what distro do you use?
2023-08-06 21:55:48 <Owly>: I see >:0
2023-08-06 21:55:49 <yarrie>: if its anything modern then it wont work :(
2023-08-06 21:56:07 <Owly>: Such a shame. Still, it's a cool project idea
2023-08-06 21:56:21 <Owly>: Plus it looks really clean and nice looking
2023-08-06 21:56:26 <yarrie>: the delay is stubboness of getting something pure C like
2023-08-06 21:56:37 <yarrie>: thinking about it now maybe it could be hot patched with pacat
2023-08-06 21:56:38 <yarrie>: *pwcat
2023-08-06 21:56:44 <yarrie>: which is similar to what was used for pulseaudio
2023-08-06 21:56:47 <yarrie>: hmmm u got me thinking
2023-08-06 21:57:09 <Owly>: Oh yes?
2023-08-06 21:59:20 <yarrie>: btw i've always been curious: how do you host owly.fans?
2023-08-06 21:59:36 <Owly>: It is hosted via GitHub Pages, so just git
2023-08-06 21:59:43 <yarrie>: no kidding
2023-08-06 22:00:28 <Owly>: I like that my website is hosted on git, mostly as I am okay with people being able to see my whole site and they can fork it and make corrections
2023-08-06 22:00:57 <yarrie>: i cant stand what i said even 6 months ago
2023-08-06 22:01:03 <yarrie>: i delist pages out of fear lol
2023-08-06 22:01:06 <yarrie>: *regret
2023-08-06 22:01:24 <yarrie>: https://harry.city/downtown/linkrot/
2023-08-06 22:01:58 <Owly>: Oh, yeah, linkrot has always been an issue with hosting websites
2023-08-06 22:02:28 <Owly>: I *try* and advoid it, but it doesn't matter *so much* for me, as if I do remove a page, people can see it in the git logs
2023-08-06 22:02:33 <Owly>: But still, I relate
2023-08-06 22:02:34 <yarrie>: my middleground is remoiving links from the tree but keeping the page up
2023-08-06 22:02:39 <yarrie>: yea exactly
2023-08-06 22:02:46 <yarrie>: even hard removals are preserved for you
2023-08-06 22:02:58 <Owly>: That's one of the reasons why I like git
2023-08-06 22:03:09 <yarrie>: was a while ago but once i asked archive.org to slash something from the archive
2023-08-06 22:03:16 <Owly>: I really should say that git isn't for everyone
2023-08-06 22:03:23 <yarrie>: was easy but they told me i was potentially ruining public record history
2023-08-06 22:03:26 <yarrie>: which is fair x)
2023-08-06 22:03:30 <Owly>: Yeah
2023-08-06 22:03:53 <Owly>: I had a friend who asked archive.org to remove a page, it was quite easy from what I read
2023-08-06 22:04:10 <Owly>: I guess that's a good and bad thing in the end of the day
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